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To whom? I have received nothing.

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"No Contests, No Divas, Just A Good Time!"

" Disc based and loving it..."

Both of us? My apologies Paradigm, I guess I missed it? Ask again, and you shall receive a yes or no answer.

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"No Contests, No Divas, Just A Good Time!"

" Disc based and loving it..."

As much as i love the folks at chartbuster, and as many times as i have eaten there, recorded in their booth, purchased disc, and sang outside at their cafe. They just don't have a legal foot to stand on, in order to even make this policy of use. I'd sure love to see it challenged, CB would loose. Any intellectual law attorney worth his salt will agree, there is no statue against "Format Shift"...none.

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Sweet Little Me In Karaokeland........

Here is some "FOOD FOR THOUGHT" they are suing for format shifting!

they are actually not suing for format shifting, but for having the songs without discs. if you show you have the discs, no suit.

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Here's some food for thought for you my friend. Please tell me the case numbers, and location, i'd like to have a good laugh. {No disrespect intended} i

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Sweet Little Me In Karaokeland........

Complete list here:

http://www.thekiaa.org/the-lawsuits.html

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Dave's not here.

Actually I left the n't off by accident! I know they aren't suing for format shifting! I have said it over and over again they are suing for unauthorized trademark copy and display when it comes right down to the nitty gritty.

I was talking "Format~Shifting". There is no case law to back up chartbuster's claim for filing suit. And as much as i like those folks, they don't have a leg to stand on. I am addressing chartbuster's policy for "Format~Shifting". They clearly state they will try and sue you for it. Read it again...

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Sweet Little Me In Karaokeland........

Actually it would probably serve you better to read what they are actually suing for!

http://www.thekiaa.org/images/Chartbust ... uthern.pdf

ok you tell me. Beside copyright, and trademark infringement, which neither i'm talking about. Read what happens if you are caught "F-O-R-M-A-T~S-H-I-T-I-N-G" without their consent. It says you are subject to what?

Look...i'm not trying to be super karaoke jock here. I, like you, am just stating facts as i interpret them. And it just rubs me the wrong way to hear someone yelling you must be a theif because i don't share their views on all this. I think you owe an apology to both those posters. You haven't a clue about either one of those posters, who contribute to this forum. I learn alot from this forum, and enjoy my visits here. This forum is a tool that i use often. Either about gear, or new products, new CDG's, who not to purchase from.

But to make a broad statement, that anyone who doesn't share your views is a pirate is just over the line. I have no reason to believe either one of these posters are anything more then they present themselves to be. One is even disc based. Bravo for him, glad to see the old ways still being used.

I would really really appreciate it, if you would try to treat others' views with a little respect. I'm an old hillbilly, and shoot i could care less what others think about me. But i'm as honest as the day is long, and try to respect everyones ideas. That's my beef with sound choice, and now sadly you. I'll be darned if i will be labled a theif if i don't bow to the curiosity of the likes of sound choice, and a few others with vested interest. Give these other two posters an apology, shake hands, and agree to disagree....Oh...by the way, i'm NOT old...i'm a classic.... {No Disrespect Intended}

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Sweet Little Me In Karaokeland........

Thunder, Michael Handy, virgin karaoke, mick, steve or whoever you really are..this is about as amusing post as i've seen on here in the four years i've been here. You sound like a guy with great expectations, but no ability to get there..just a tad frustraded, that no one will listen to you. Your rambling rants are just so sad...i won't comment further, you are a real testimonial to yourself sir and your mentor sound choice, i'm sure they are just so proud, a real team player. Now why someone hasn't put up a statue in your honor is beyond me..i'll work on that for ya. Be of good cheer, this to shall pass.
{No disrespect is intended in this reply}

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Sweet Little Me In Karaokeland........

It is sad that everyone here had made their final judgements of Thunder based soley on comments made on this forum. I guess I could make the same judgements about anyone here just on what has been posted but I am just going to stick to the facts as I know tem to be accurate and will no longer get in a pi**ing match of words with anyone on this forum. After all they are just words and seems there is a giant divide amoungst views pro and con. The total destructive pattern here is way out of bounds. I am calling everyone out to stop the pause the battle, do some due dilligence and the consider steping back into the discussion showing intelligence and common sense. Stick to the facts and forget the he said she said on both sides, and I an guilty of posting ouotes and rebutting with a negitive comment. Let's no go the direction of another forum went down the drain. We are here to share information and not destroy our industry infighting and not really finding a real solutions to keep each other legal and profitable. We are not going to change how the manus work but we can only changes ourselves. I am going to start with me.

If I have hurt anyones feelings or made assumptions that are false about anyone here that is active in our community, I want to appologize right here and right now. Everyone have a great day and I am off to ride my motorcycle for the afternoon with my lovely wife.

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It's not. It's actions by Thunder on this forum including using a false identity and then purposely lying about it.



I guess you could, but the problem is determining what exactly is a "fact."



"Call everyone out" all you like - you'll find that a simple request might garner a more positive attitude.



I don't think you have... so have a great ride.

The problem is we have all made our "final judgements" of each other based on the comments made on this and other sites, I have as well as others and it doesn't really make any difference which side of the issue you are on or how you word it, for me the issue is anti- piracy V pro piracy, the other side of the issue anti manu V pro manu, regardless of how you word it, in my opinion it is still the same. But you are correct, discussion can be done without name calling and insinuation (of which I am very quilty). I agree that unless something in based entirely on fact then it is all just opinion and everyone has the right to express their's. Here again it becomes a matter of how something reads or how it is read that makes a big difference, way too many of us try to "read between the lines and get some meaning out of a post that may or may not exist, then go off on the poster as to the what they really meant by the post. Generally it esculates from that point on.

I agree with you and will seek to make the changes that are required not to argue a pointless argument!

Speak for yourself. I am not part of your "we" nor am I part of your "secret police goon squad" either. I don't play Batman on T.V. and I'm not "free investigator or snitch."

Thanks for finally admitting though that your view is a simple one; if someone doesn't agree with you, they must be either a pirate or "pro-pirate." Forget any other options as you can't see past that.



How convenient. Say what you think everyone wants to hear, but leave yourself and "out" with all the "reading between the lines" crap. You're caught bullying, you simply claim it's "sarcasm" and it's now somehow the reader's fault. If you can't be clear about your posts then simply don't post anything. You blatantly call me a pirate with no evidence for almost a year, you ignore any request to provide the proof of this and then you magically claim you changed your mind with no explanation? And now you want to make nice? Sorry, I'm just not buying it. You can suck up to whomever you want, it just won't work here.



More Bull$h!t.... I've seen you do this same song and dance before, it's not new and it's certainly not sincere.

Nope- Lied again..... You don't lie in the tech forums, or the Karaoke forum- where you post useful info. Why do you continually lie in the SC debates. Folllowing SC's lead?

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"No Contests, No Divas, Just A Good Time!"

" Disc based and loving it..."

he was talking to me in that specific post Joe.

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