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The point is no one has stolen the actual tracks which are BETTER quality and 100% perfect graphics which 99.9% of the torrents are not.

If you are going to go to the trouble of stealing something, you might as well get the best version you can get. It wouldn't be that hard to put the actual tracks on mirc or a torrent, but because they are watermarked and traceable, no one in their right mind would. And no one has.

That's streaming, not media, and it is completely different.


The way you pirate streams is by grabbing the stream. It isn't impossible at all. If it is going to output audio and video, at some point you can hijack it.

It isn't done now because there is no streaming-only content and hard media is what is pirated. But if there were no hard media to hijack, you can bet that there would be people hijacking the streams and the graphics and producing MP4 and AVI karaoke files.

None of those things have anything to do with copy protection.

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[color=#ffff55]Mickey J.[/color]
Alas for those who never sing, but die with all their music in them.
-- Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.

Exactly. Thank You.

Apparently there also have not been any stolen drives or disk sets (at least by someone who knew what they stole).

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[color=#ffff55]Mickey J.[/color]
Alas for those who never sing, but die with all their music in them.
-- Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.

The GEM really is the best method of making it easily identifiable as to the real owner and if it's stolen. ally that to new music downloads and it would help in the future. I'm sure there is a way to add that watermark with a name to the cdg file at the time of download.

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Paradigm Karaoke, The New Standard.......Shift Happens

So why wasn't there any hate for Stellar and their CAP program which is EXACTLY what you describe?(except it was a one time fee instead of monthly)

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-Chris

because there were no other expectations.
SC has touted that wrong is wrong and tried to keep the integrity of what they were attempting to do in the forefront of it while calling on our morals to do the right thing and report theft.
Stellar never made such expectations. it is not WHAT SC is doing that i have the issue with. if you know of piracy, the right thing to do was report it, unless you are SC then it is not your problem to report piracy. it's the double standard again.

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Paradigm Karaoke, The New Standard.......Shift Happens

Does it further chap your hide that they chose the name of your fair city for the "new" company name???

Given the circumstances, I'm going to make a wild-assed guess that it might have been named after the mythical bird that rises from the ashes, not after the city. I could be wrong.

Also, St. Paul's Cathedral isn't named after St. Paul, Minnesota.

nah, i see where they were going with it and i would probably do the same.
if it works, a phoenix would be a great analogy.

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Paradigm Karaoke, The New Standard.......Shift Happens

Please note post #19 on this page, to see that way before now, I noted this very thing:

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=31328

Also, there is a very good chance that the CITY Phoenix was named after the mythical bird, which would, by association, make my statement (though always meant to be tongue-in-cheek) valid...

Did I read this right?

An officer of the court called someone a DICK in an open forum?
And yet he has not been chastised by Admin or others?

I have seen people banned for less.

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A stranger is a friend you haven't met yet

Thanks for clearing that up. I did notice on that other thread you already had two more posts pointing out to other people that you thought of it first.

Guys, can we all chip in and buy this guy a special ribbon or something?

It seems as though I might have been the closest of the speculators... minus the new ownership twist.

The SC catalogue was offered on line legitimately (SC original tracks) 2 or 3 times for short periods ( Stingray may still be offering them in Canada, not sure..).

What makes you so sure THOSE tracks have not been pirated. Personally, I am certain that they have. What would have stopped that from happening?

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"No Contests, No Divas, Just A Good Time!"

" Disc based and loving it..."

They problably have been.. The difference, is that to the best of my knowledge no one has made them available for public consumption.

How can i be so sure? Because I have downloaded from these torrents and mirc before. I used to do it all the time before i was a host.

If i wanted to, i know EXACTLY where to go, and how to get the songs i want.

And you know what the weird thing is, I went back about a year ago to see if things have changed much. They haven't.. people are still posting NEW stuff at 128k because they don't know any better. The only high quality files that are available to torrent that i know of are from someone who actually bought a track from karaokeversion and then just uploaded it

-James

Anyone who hacked the sites I mentioned would have no reason to put them on the sites that you mentioned. That doesn't mean the HD sellers don't offer them, or that other sites don't have them.

We will have to agree to disagree.

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"No Contests, No Divas, Just A Good Time!"

" Disc based and loving it..."

It wouldn't be too difficult to take the 320k GEM rips and replace the graphics with red label graphics. Will save a lot of time in creating the base 320k, artifact free torrents that will inevitably show up because of the HELP program.

I know I joked about it before, but there might be an opportunity to make some money on the side selling access to "a collection of Sound Choice music that meets the strict qualifications of the PEP HELP program".

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-Chris

As many can agree, especially those in a legal profession, words (and the occasional emoticon) are all that can be used in a forum such as this to portray one's thoughts on a subject. Therefore, the choosing of those words is tantamount to this experience. That being said:

One cannot claim to make a "wild assed guess" and "notice on that other thread" a prior posting, both at the same time. If it was noticed to have already been suggested, restating it has no logical purpose. Situations like this could cause one to conclude that minimal reading and comprehension skills were not utilized initially.

All obvious sarcasm aside, you are welcome for me clearing that up, and everyone chipping in and buying me anything would certainly be welcomed and appreciated...

Even if i had a set of GEM discs to do this with, there is no way in hell i would risk it. All of the music from the GEM series is watermarked and traceable, so if those files are ever analysed with the proper software, that person would know EXACTLY where the files came from

-James