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 Post subject: Singing With A Band
PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 8:50 am 
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In this neck-o-the-woods we have country jamborees, usually on Sunday afternoons.. They are normally hosted by a decent quality local band, and they're always well-attended... sometimes standing room only, and the dance floor is almost always filled.

After the mid-gig intermission, non-band member musicians and singers are encouraged to play and/or sing with the host band, and since many of the band members are my friends, and attend my karaoke gigs, I'm often asked to sing with them..

But I find it almost impossible..

Somehow, I just can't get used to ... how can I put this... musicians playing to (or following) me, instead of me singing to a pre-recorded track. And, of course, the first thing they ask is "what key do you want?"... Heck, I don't even know if it has a key, let alone what it might be. How can you tell I'm NOT a musician (although I'd love to be.)

More often than not, I make up some excuse as to why I can't sing on that particular day, but the truth is, I simply find it too uncomfortable to sing with a band...

Has anyone else here experienced this?

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 Post subject: Re: Singing With A Band
PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 12:51 pm 
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Nearly all musicians know what key the original recording was in. If you know whether you sing it dropped or raised a half or full step they'll get it. It is usually easier to sing with a live band because they follow you, especially, if you give gestures to them like raising volume, lowering volume, cut for dynamics, and pointing to each for their solo, etc. That, to me, is fronting for the band and it is a visual to the audience, also.

On the other hand, most pro singers experience problems singing to karaoke because its' perceived rigidity to them makes it somewhat difficult for them to make the song their own. It becomes challenging to them and actually forces creativity in a different way.

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 Post subject: Re: Singing With A Band
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Nearly all musicians know what key the original recording was in. If you know whether you sing it dropped or raised a half or full step they'll get it. It is usually easier to sing with a live band because they follow you, especially, if you give gestures to them like raising volume, lowering volume, cut for dynamics, and pointing to each for their solo, etc. That, to me, is fronting for the band and it is a visual to the audience, also.

On the other hand, most pro singers experience problems singing to karaoke because its' perceived rigidity to them makes it somewhat difficult for them to make the song their own. It becomes challenging to them and actually forces creativity in a different way.



I can see Earl's point, although I've never sang with a band.
I think i would be uncomfortable, because of the looseness.
Then again the rigidity you refer to in karaoke is not a problem
To me, as i always tweak every little nook and cranny to inprove
My performance, but i guess thats the nature of the beast in
The history of music. I certainly like your solid explanation!


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There was a user here a few years ago called Jaseoke, who was part of a live karaoke band. That was a hell of an experience. I miss those guys.

There have been times I have sang in a band jam, and that was also a neat experience, but I went in following them, not them following me.

As for musicians doing karaoke, the one that boggles my mind is a friend who has fronted multiple bands, one of them touring nationally at one point, and he is TERRIFIED of karaoke. Like, sweating and shaking terrified. He needs his guitar to hide behind, and only did it once because he lost a bet with me.


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I play in a band and done and sing karaoke... IMHO If singing with a live band for the first few times is more difficult. You know for the most part what's next on a Karaoke track. In a band it can take alot of twists depending on how the band does the song.. That loose environment can be tough if you've rarely done it.


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I have been singing with a band for about a year now and find it very rewarding, but very different than karaoke. I started singing with them almost by accident. I showed up at one of their jam sessions to meet up with an old friend of mine. After sitting around and listening for a while, my friend mentioned that I sing a bit and I offered to sing backup (harmonies). They are a classic rock band and I sing mostly country when I solo, but love to sing harmony to anything. They invited me back to the regular jam night on Friday's and as the year has progressed, they are playing more and more country songs for me to sing lead on.

Then in August of last year, they invited me to come out to one of the gigs and sit in with them for a few songs. Since then, I have become a regular featured guest singer in their shows.

For me, the best part about it is the friends I have made and other local musicians I have had a chance to meet. Now there are several local bands and musicians that I jam with and sometimes perform with.

I like the looseness of it and the fact that we have some freedom to improvise. I sometimes change the melody or timing in parts. I just signal the drummer when I want a tempo change or want him to drop out for a few measures on certain parts. Sometimes on songs like "wagon wheel" we drop out the instruments for a chorus and sing acapella. To do this though, you have to be comfortable with the other guys in the band a pay attention to each other.

The best thing about karaoke is still the words being displayed on the screen, but I think after singing out with the band I am a better performer and make more connection with my audience instead of just standing there staring at the screen. I have at times screwed up the words and forgotten lyrics with the live band, but the guys just laugh it off and we just keep going.

I hardly ever go out to karaoke any more, but will still occasionally go. I probably sing 2 or 3 gigs per month and go karaoke maybe once per month. One of the best things about karaoke is the huge song selection too.

The downside of performing with the band is I have become even more of a gear slut. Buying several new microphones, cables, stand, effects pedal and wedge monitor in the past year. I want a new mixer (Allen & Heath Zed10fx or similar) but can't really justify it with the wife. I still sing karaoke at the house to practice.

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