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 Post subject: Re: Karaoke Software
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I have been a compuhost user since 2006, and have never had to pay for upgrades so far.

but i have purchased 3 license and 1 kiosk setup.

they even give a 20% discount on additional licenses to run multiple shows.

their upgrades are often and well done whether its a feature upgrade or a functionality fix upgrade.

and the user suggestion for new features - no one else offers this... they have incorporated a couple of my ideas in their program.

the user forums are great for help with any problems you may have and the tech support is great also....

can't go wrong with this program!!!! A+++++++


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 Post subject: Re: Karaoke Software
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and the user suggestion for new features - no one else offers this... they have incorporated a couple of my ideas in their program.

That is not a CH exclusive. MANY programs get user input and request for new features as well. I've had a few of my ideas incorporated into Hoster as well.

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to the best of my knowledge, CH offers free updates as long as its for the same major version number. right now its 1.xx so when version 2.0 comes out they will probably charge a small fee to update.


this is pretty standard with most software

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 Post subject: Re: Karaoke Software
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Siglos does it for a year, then if you want upgrades it is $25.00 for a years worth. they also incorporate user ideas into new builds. i know i have seen 5 of my ideas directly incorporated into the different versions. most companies do this unless they truly think they know it all. i can only think of one like that though........and it's a bit(h

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jclaydon wrote:
to the best of my knowledge, CH offers free updates as long as its for the same major version number.


See five posts above.

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so what constitutes a major upgrade for compuhost.....?

like i said - i've been using it since 2006 and it five years later and still have not had a major update.....

but alot of the features to me have been major updates.


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mightywiz wrote:
so what constitutes a major upgrade for compuhost.....?

like i said - i've been using it since 2006 and it five years later and still have not had a major update.....

but alot of the features to me have been major updates.


Typically with software, the standard practice is that whole numbers are major and anything less is minor.

IE: Version 2.0 to 2.1 is minor. Version 5.2 to 6.0 is major.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Versioning

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 Post subject: Re: Karaoke Software
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Bazza hit it on the head exactly.. This is what I meant when I said major release. Compuhost is currently still on 'version 1'

Compuhost has been promising a '2.0' release of their software for some time now, with some cutting-edge features that no one else has.

its getting to the point where i'm starting to think along the lines of 'i'll believe it when i see it'


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Compuhost has been promising a '2.0' release of their software for some time now, with some cutting-edge features that no one else has. its getting to the point where i'm starting to think along the lines of 'i'll believe it when i see it'

It's coming. And I think it's going to be killer! I rather have them take their time and introduce a dynamite upgrade then to just rush something out the door that leaves much to be desired. Remember, we're talking about CompuHost here. Do you really expect anything less than the best?


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 Post subject: Re: Karaoke Software
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Remember, we're talking about CompuHost here. Do you really expect anything less than the best?

That's all subject to who you talk to.

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Usually (and I have nothing to do with Compuhost) a major version change will be required when it's time to scrap the old one completely and reorganize the user interface. When a feature gets added to an existing application it can be hard to figure out where to put the user interface to that feature and how to make it fairly intuitive because users refuse to RTFM. After enough additions, the UI becomes confusing to say the least and it's just easier to start over, and that's a major version change.... at least for me.

As for the idea that CH IS just the most wonderfullist thing since the invention of women... nothing you can do with a true believer.

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Having just ponied up the money to upgrade MTU Hoster, and having had to deal with their import process and baroque user interface, I haven't changed my mind. I stand with my appraisal of CompuHost as the best on the market.

The failure of MTU to do anything halfway decent in the search area is truly astonishing. They continue to use 1970s exact-string search technology. It's like they selected their B-Tree interface in 1981, darn it, and they ain't changing.

So yes, I still think Compuhost is the best after looking at all the top contenders. As for replacing women, not so much. 8-)

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A few years ago Compuhost had a deal that we lucked into with their songbook creater program. Free for life if you bought it right then. Needless to say we have had that program from them for years.
My husband has been test driving and looking at which software to get for the last few years. He's always been disc based but we have now bought an RV and plan on some traveling and if he wants to take his rig with him and do some on the road then he has to slim down at some points. Disc's take up alot of room for an RV and can be stored if they are put on a harddrive.
Looked at lots and what others are running for whichever show we go to and he has always stuck on getting the Compuhost but the $180 price stopped him. Now it finally comes time that he has to decide which program to run with. The oldest son got married and wanted him to run the karaoke for the reception that he was gonna have. We are in CA, had to fly back home to MI to do some stuff and get his equipment, then drive to DC. All with now only able to do by harddrive for this one. That means he had to finally buckle down and get one. He bought it on late Friday and by the time of the party on Saturday early afternoon he had his key to run and was up running flawlessly.
Anytime we have had a question or problem they have been very prompt to get things fixed. We have had to move the book program and for that you need to let them know since at the time was only licenced for one computer. The other problem was when after an upgrade for the book program it said we needed to buy for the next year, they fixed it that fast, lol.


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 Post subject: Re: Karaoke Software
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Usually (and I have nothing to do with Compuhost) a major version change will be required when it's time to scrap the old one completely and reorganize the user interface. When a feature gets added to an existing application it can be hard to figure out where to put the user interface to that feature and how to make it fairly intuitive because users refuse to RTFM. After enough additions, the UI becomes confusing to say the least and it's just easier to start over, and that's a major version change.... at least for me.

As for the idea that CH IS just the most wonderfullist thing since the invention of women... nothing you can do with a true believer.


Hey, I fully agree with you :shock: Most software are built on the Bass engine which is by far the best out there but MTU or should I say the big boss :wink: insist on using it's old format which is costing more and completely passed date :roll:

It's funny because I personally had a discussion with the man about 5 years ago about Bass and he said he would look into it...


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Bass is pretty spendy for developers and really doesn't affect anything until you change keys, unless you think processed sound is better. It just sounds more artificial to me.

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Usually (and I have nothing to do with Compuhost) a major version change will be required when it's time to scrap the old one completely and reorganize the user interface. When a feature gets added to an existing application it can be hard to figure out where to put the user interface to that feature and how to make it fairly intuitive because users refuse to RTFM. After enough additions, the UI becomes confusing to say the least and it's just easier to start over, and that's a major version change.... at least for me.

As for the idea that CH IS just the most wonderfullist thing since the invention of women... nothing you can do with a true believer.


Hey, I fully agree with you :shock: Most software are built on the Bass engine which is by far the best out there but MTU or should I say the big boss :wink: insist on using it's old format which is costing more and completely passed date :roll:

It's funny because I personally had a discussion with the man about 5 years ago about Bass and he said he would look into it...

I have tried Karma with the Bass engine & Hoster side by side - with the same song files and key change and heard no distinguishable difference going through my computer speakers, home PA and a set of AKG 240D headphones - even with the key changes - now granted I didn't go any lower than 3 steps - but heard the same typical key change artifacts in both players. IMO it's more hype that Bass is a superior system over anything else.

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Bass is pretty spendy for developers and really doesn't affect anything until you change keys, unless you think processed sound is better. It just sounds more artificial to me.


I don't agree, Bass does affect the sound :roll: Download their mp3 player and with a good set of headphone and audio card, compare a wave file in Xmplay and Hoster and tell me what you hear :wink:

http://support.xmplay.com/

Not all software built on Bass will sound the same, it depends on the quality of the programmer but I can assure you it can sound amazing!! BTW, Karafun is built on Bass and it sounds incredibly well :!:


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Micky wrote:
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Bass is pretty spendy for developers and really doesn't affect anything until you change keys, unless you think processed sound is better. It just sounds more artificial to me.


I don't agree, Bass does affect the sound :roll: Download their mp3 player and with a good set of headphone and audio card, compare a wave file in Xmplay and Hoster and tell me what you hear :wink:

http://support.xmplay.com/

Not all software built on Bass will sound the same, it depends on the quality of the programmer but I can assure you it can sound amazing!! BTW, Karafun is built on Bass and it sounds incredibly well :!:

Downloaded. Still don't hear any discernable difference between the XM Player, Hoster, Compuhost, or WMP that would make me say WOW or amazing over any of the others! :wink: I stand by my assessment as i'm sure you'll stand by yours :roll: .

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Micky wrote:
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Bass is pretty spendy for developers and really doesn't affect anything until you change keys, unless you think processed sound is better. It just sounds more artificial to me.


I don't agree, Bass does affect the sound :roll: Download their mp3 player and with a good set of headphone and audio card, compare a wave file in Xmplay and Hoster and tell me what you hear :wink:

http://support.xmplay.com/

Not all software built on Bass will sound the same, it depends on the quality of the programmer but I can assure you it can sound amazing!! BTW, Karafun is built on Bass and it sounds incredibly well :!:

Well, maybe I am "talking through my hat" as my dear departed mother used to say but it really wouldn't make any sense to process digital audio unless you needed to alter it (Key change for example.) I didn't bother to examine their source once I saw their pricetag. Karafun is freeware so the Bass folks don't charge them to use it. I understand Toqer played with Bass for AutoOKdj, maybe we should appeal to him for input, unless he's been banned or is hiding under a giant tinfoil hat in area 51 or something.

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I really don't care how busy a KJ "thinks they might be" in 6 years, I've never needed more than 1 (one, uno) at any show. Plus, this software is not dependent on other software.... You can use it with a database made from a disc collection or even as a request system for a Disc Jockey.

The receiver program that runs in the background is a mere 28k in size... it won't interfere with any other software you run and the kiosk doesn't need to be rebooted if your host system goes down.

Would you prefer if I had a sale... like "buy 1 and get the 2nd one for $75?" This way you'd be saving around $100 and still have two.



Well as i have stated, i personally don't care. If you say you've only ever needed one, I am inclined to believe you, as I haven't been hosting long enough to know one way or the other.

If i actually bought a kiosk system, and wanted another one for whatever reason, I certainly wouldn't complain if you offered a discount. Who the hell turns down a savings on something they want.. *shrug*

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