Not a scam, and no, CajunSingin and Bastiat are not one and the same. I have no idea who CajunSingin is and obviously I can't comment on any case in particular anyway, but it looks like I'm not the only one whose noticed that he just joined yesterday and is already navigating this forum like a pro. Just begs the question if CajunSingin is also a forum member under a different identity. Nevertheless the preferred targets are KJs who have illegally built massive libraries of karaoke content but home users are equally guilty of infringement. There isn't an obvious way of distinguishing whether a purchaser of an illegal hard drive is a home user or a KJ from sales records obtained through discovery, but be as it may, once the process has been started against a seller/buyer, there's no turning back. I've seen many posts over these last several months where just about all of you have condemned these hard drive sellers and buyers. It will be interesting to see how many of you will still support that idea now that action has finally been taken in the direction of ridding the industry of this scourge. If someone has sold, selling or purchased an illegal hard drive, the likelihood that they will be discovered and dealt with is very high.

Not a scam, and no, CajunSingin and Bastiat are not one and the same. I have no idea who CajunSingin is and obviously I can't comment on any case in particular anyway, but it looks like I'm not the only one whose noticed that he just joined yesterday and is already navigating this forum like a pro. Just begs the question if CajunSingin is also a forum member under a different identity. Nevertheless the preferred targets are KJs who have illegally built massive libraries of karaoke content but home users are equally guilty of infringement. There isn't an obvious way of distinguishing whether a purchaser of an illegal hard drive is a home user or a KJ from sales records obtained through discovery, but be as it may, once the process has been started against a seller/buyer, there's no turning back. I've seen many posts over these last several months where just about all of you have condemned these hard drive sellers and buyers. It will be interesting to see how many of you will still support that idea now that action has finally been taken in the direction of ridding the industry of this scourge. If someone has sold, selling or purchased an illegal hard drive, the likelihood that they will be discovered and dealt with is very high.

There are some people who go through their entire lives looking to find fault with everything, and will offer their opinions based on absurd ignorance and stupidity. These folks or as some would call them "haters", have rendered themselves irrelevant and i wouldn't waste a precious second of my time responding to them, although I do sincerely pity them.

Not a scam, and no, CajunSingin and Bastiat are not one and the same. I have no idea who CajunSingin is and obviously I can't comment on any case in particular anyway, but it looks like I'm not the only one whose noticed that he just joined yesterday and is already navigating this forum like a pro. Just begs the question if CajunSingin is also a forum member under a different identity. Nevertheless the preferred targets are KJs who have illegally built massive libraries of karaoke content but home users are equally guilty of infringement. There isn't an obvious way of distinguishing whether a purchaser of an illegal hard drive is a home user or a KJ from sales records obtained through discovery, but be as it may, once the process has been started against a seller/buyer, there's no turning back. I've seen many posts over these last several months where just about all of you have condemned these hard drive sellers and buyers. It will be interesting to see how many of you will still support that idea now that action has finally been taken in the direction of ridding the industry of this scourge. If someone has sold, selling or purchased an illegal hard drive, the likelihood that they will be discovered and dealt with is very high.

I fully support going after HDD sellers and buyers. I also believe that many buyers are not informed when they buy. Ignorance is no excuse. This IS the proper way to go about the process of ridding the market of some of those pirated drives, hands down and with no exception. Anyone that finds fault with this IS a pirate sympathizer.

So Stellar should just not do anything because a bunch of those drives have been copied and there is no paper trail? That's just plain crazy. So a list of buyers is turned over in discovery. How is someone like Stellar suppose to know who is a KJ and who is a home user by simply looking at the list? Does it really matter if it's a KJ or a home user? Using pirated material is a crime whether it is a KJ or home user. I'll not attempt to decide how one should be processed versus the other. Maybe it is different, maybe it is not and my guess is it would be a case by case decision but discovery would have to be performed to know how to proceed.

Please, show at least a little common sense LR.

WHAT IF THE DEFENDANT JUST told the judge that the hard drive arrived dead
on arrival and he just threw it away in the trash and he wrote it off as a loss?

Common sense tells me that PEP tried for years to do something about piracy, and very little was accomplished. If you look at the example of PEP, which Stellar should have done before they started trying their own corporate recovery process. If recovery is such an easy process then why didn't PEP succeed? For the same reason PEP failed Stellar will also fail unless they have some secret sauce known only to them. The reason Jim H said they didn't go after the home user abuser was it was too hard a target. They went for the deep pockets since recovery is an expensive process, and still they couldn't make it work. Also Stellar has waited quite along time if they are going to get into the recovery business. Making their recovery process all the more difficult. We are ourselves getting all worked up about a program, with little information provided about it.

Common sense has failed you once again. Don't listen to your common sense. It has issues. PEP never tried to do anything about piracy. They attempted to recoup loses from piracy. There is a huge difference. Anyone that thought the practice of attempting to recoup loses from piracy would ever stop it is in for some major disappointment. The best you could hope for is to curb it or make it more difficult. To date, PEP's methods have probably helped feed piracy instead of curb it.

No one with any integrity ever faulted PEP for attempting to recoup piracy loses. It was their methods that caused such a stink. "Go after the disc sellers" we said. "That's the way to do it!", we said. Now it appears someone is and people are still trying to throw rotten eggs on it too.

I don't know what sort of practices Stellar will use. But I do know that going after people who sell and purchase drives is the only way to me that makes any sense. I would like to think they learned a few things of what to do and what not to do from PEP's flailing about. We shall see but I will give them the benefit of the doubt.

It's not just the right thing to do. It's the only thing to do.

I don't think some of you are seeing the big picture here. By going after sellers, and going after buyers (especially home users), the free for all landscape changes. It would especially change if the ads used were deemed to be deceptive and unknowing buyers were able to hit the sellers from their side as well. I could certainly see that as an avenue to changing the landscape and making it much more difficult for sellers.