A Pirate?? How So????

Oh..you mean a possible Media-Shifter...?

They ARE 2 different things!

A Pirate?? How So????

Oh..you mean a possible Media-Shifter...?

They ARE 2 different things!

Tic Toc Tic Toc Tic Toc...... knock who's there....... why it's Chip Staley time!

No, I'm not referring to media-shifting. I agree that those are two different things. I've never referred to people who media-shift from original discs, with 1:1 correspondence, as "pirates."

As far as Mr. Staley is concerned, however, here are the facts: As late as 2009, Mr. Staley's operation included at least 7 karaoke systems. This is a matter of public record. (He ran into some trouble with zoning enforcement in his town because the truck he bought to haul those systems around was too tall to park in his driveway legally, and that information was included in his application for a zoning variance.)

In 2009, SC started taking legal action against pirates, specifically targeting operators who were outright pirates or who were multi-rigging from single sets of discs. I think we can all agree that the term "pirate" includes both categories of operators.

After word got out of that enforcement activity, Mr. Staley dropped several systems, took a non-karaoke job, and began a campaign against SC. He was so angry with SC for daring to enforce its rights that he stopped playing SC at the shows he had left—even though he purportedly owned SC discs—and even posted a sign informing patrons that he would not play SC tracks, even from their own media.

You can draw whatever conclusion you like about why he dropped those extra systems. His actions are, in my opinion, consistent with those of someone who feared having to account for piracy and who lost a lot of income as a result. I know that Kurt offered at least once to inspect his disc holdings and systems, cost-free, and to give him a public acknowledgement of 1:1 correspondence, no strings attached. Needless to say, he refused.

To my knowledge, Mr. Staley has never denied the facts as I've laid them about above. If they are somehow incorrect, I invite him to supply the correct facts.

So, a person goes to his local government and requests a variance. So the F what. Did the circumstance that his truck was a few inches higher than allowed dictate the filing of SC lawsuits in 2009? So, if his truck was a few inches UNDER the allowed Maximum Limit, would SC NOT HAVE FILED LAWSUITS 2009? Where is the cause and effect?

Do you see the imbecilic LOGIC that CHIP, yes, and, in fact, ALL OF US, has had to contend with all these years.

No PRIVATE entity has the right to inspect OUR business at any time. Who gives a F if there was an offer.

Chip pulled his SC library when he found out that SC had sued a KJ that had LEGALLY PURCHASED SC DISCS and was using those SC Discs ON A DISC BASED KARAOKE PLAYER. In other words, that KJ had NOT Media Shifted anything and was using the SC discs in compliance with SC "rules."

Chip was FURTHER proven correct in doing so by PROTECTING his Venues when SC started suing Venues.

Tic Toc Tic Toc Tic Toc...... knock who's there....... why it's Chip Staley time!

JimHarrington: The significance of that statement was that he publicly acknowledged having 7 karaoke systems. I couldn't care less about his truck.

JimHarrington: No one said that SC has the right to inspect your business. If SC had had that right (and wanted to exercise it), Mr. Staley would not have been able to say no. SC doesn't have that right, obviously. He declined Kurt's offer. Maybe he was afraid of what it would show; maybe he just didn't want to submit to an inspection. But it would have certainly resolved the question of whether he was 1:1 or not.

JimHarrington: He pulled his SC library well before that occurred.

JimHarrington: Do you know what also protects your venues? Having 1:1 correspondence.

The significance of that statement was that he publicly acknowledged having 7 karaoke systems. I couldn't care less about his truck.

No one said that SC has the right to inspect your business. If SC had had that right (and wanted to exercise it), Mr. Staley would not have been able to say no. SC doesn't have that right, obviously.

He declined Kurt's offer. Maybe he was afraid of what it would show; maybe he just didn't want to submit to an inspection. But it would have certainly resolved the question of whether he was 1:1 or not.

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Phill Cross is on vacation in Hawaii.
Any further bashing in this thread will cause a lock at minimum.
Quit the whining..