So, you say you, (PEP/SC) control performance fees? I think not..
Where are the regulations stating trademark owners control public performance?
I'm waiting..

Not "public performance." Use of the marks.

15 U.S.C. § 1115(a):

Any registration issued under the Act of March 3, 1881, or the Act of February 20, 1905, or of a mark registered on the principal register provided by this chapter and owned by a party to an action shall be admissible in evidence and shall be prima facie evidence of the validity of the registered mark and of the registration of the mark, of the registrant's ownership of the mark, and of the registrant's exclusive right to use the registered mark in [b]commerce on or in connection with the goods or services specified in the registration[/b] subject to any conditions or limitations stated therein ... .

(Emphasis is mine.)

Again, KJs are not selling SC discs..

Not like you're suggesting. Video rental stores also do not have the right to authorize the public performance of the content.

Surely you don't think that a KJ who supplies karaoke services at a venue for money isn't engaged in commerce.

Yes, the KJ is involved in commerce. WITH THE BAR, not with the audience. Unless the KJ goes up to each person in the bar and asks them for a dollar to see the SC logo come up each time.

No, the transaction is that the audience pays the bar for drinks and food, the bar pays the KJ, and the KJ provides the entertainment to the audience. Trademark protection is not limited to direct, two-party transactions.

No, the transaction is that the audience pays the bar for drinks and food, the bar pays the KJ, and the KJ provides the entertainment to the audience. Trademark protection is not limited to direct, two-party transactions.

Now, here's what the law says: The SC logo is supposed to indicate Phoenix as the source of karaoke entertainment services. In other words, legally, as a matter of law, when that logo shows up on the screen 100 times a night, it's signalling to the consumer that "Phoenix is either providing these services or standing behind them through some sort of sponsorship, affiliation, or approval." That is what a trademark or service mark does.

The consumer is supposed to be able to take that at face value.

But, in reality, Phoenix has absolutely nothing to do with that show. The KJ isn't Phoenix's licensee. He's never bought a SC product at all. Phoenix isn't actually standing behind that show at all. So, any consumer who takes the display of the logo at face value, AS THE LAW SAYS THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO DO, is being deceived. And that deception is what the Trademark Act is supposed to prevent.

I'm not a part of SC anymore, as I have repeatedly said. I will say this, however: If you don't want to be called "pro-piracy," stop supporting piracy. When you accuse SC of doing something it has never done—as you did above—to try to undermine the legitimacy of what it has done in opposition to pirates, that is "supporting piracy," by definition. You know that what you said wasn't true, and you said it anyway. If you genuinely oppose piracy, stop lying about what SC does to try to stop it.

This assumes, of course, that I give a flying f*** what The Lone Ranger thinks. I don't.

Actually, there are some shows I have been to, where the KJ DOES charge the Singer $1 or $2 to sing a song. That transaction is between the KJ and the Singer, and the Bar/Venue has nothing to do with it.

I think it might be nice if Mr. Staley and Mr. Harrington decided to meet somewhere and have a beer together. This feud has been going on for far too long. It might be time to bury the hatchet and move on.

I think it might be nice if Mr. Staley and Mr. Harrington decided to meet somewhere and have a beer together. This feud has been going on for far too long. It might be time to bury the hatchet and move on.

I think it might be nice if Mr. Staley and Mr. Harrington decided to meet somewhere and have a beer together. This feud has been going on for far too long. It might be time to bury the hatchet and move on.

One of my hosts (now deceased) ALWAYS collected $1 from every singer for cancer research..he was also in a band and collected for every request made... he did this for years and for years before I met him...

When he passed away in 2003, he had collected and donated over a million dollars.

That sounds great; however, the KJs/shows I was referring to did not charge people to sing so that the money would be donated to charity.

I've had him blocked for quite a long time now, and I don't give any thought to what he has to say, nor do I care about his opinions. He's a pirate who quit piracy before he got caught, and he's spent the last 9 years stewing over the fact that he couldn't run 7 systems anymore and looking for ways he could cause harm to a company that literally did nothing to him.