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So my voco-pro mixer is due back from repair today and I'm already thinking about buying the Mackie DFX12 to use as my MAIN mixer .
I've been reading alot of success stories with this mixer. My questions is this :?: If I reconfigure my rack setup and put in one rack
Jvc triple Drawer
Peavey Power Amp
A soon to be bought Compressor ( which I think I need)
Power conditioner to plug into

Even with the fans in the mixer Will this rack setup run too hot?
Would I be better off keeping my power amp seperate ?
Right now I usually keep it on the floor racked in the SKB ROTO ROLLER ?


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I don't think having them in the same rack is a problem, however you MUST leave at least 1U space between the Amp and any other component. If you can, leave 2 spaces above and even one below the amp.

BTW, I could be wrong but I don't think the Mackie DFX12 has a cooling fan.


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:? OOPS I mean to say cooling fan in the power amp --But I think you answered my questions..If I have to leave 3 spaces for cooling I 'll have to keep the amp seperate as the rack would be too high then ... The only show i'm doing ( 2 shows wk) has me set up on a ledge/shelf and a 8-10 space rack would be too high to work with. I'll most likley keep the amp on the floor in a seperate case. THANKS FOR THE HELP


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I put a drawer between my amps and the rest of the equipment, is is a 2 space, and hols a lot of incidentials i need for the show. also you might want to research the compressor thing. I bought one a couplea years ago, used it 2 weeks and took it out. I find the more crap you go through before the amp the more distortion it adds to the sound. I like pure sound. But that's me.

if you are using the pv line of amps it draws in the back amd blows out the front heat isnt a problem with the rest of the equipment. also keep the amps low you want the weight to the bottom of the system for stability


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A compressor should be hooked up to the mics. You wouldn't want to put it on the overall mix unless it's for speaker protection only & even then you would set it to a limiter mode which keeps the level set at a certain point to protect from sudden spikes. A compressor on the mics will actually improve the sound if used properly.

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For a compressor I'm looking at the "dbx 266 xl" Now this gets hooked up to the mics only ? It's a 2 channel so 2 mics only ? I usually use only 2 singers mics anyway and a wireless annoucer mic that sometimes gets used for Gang Songs..... If i'm going to add a somic maximizer/enhancer to my system I was looking at the "BBE 362" Now I'm a little confused ...
The enhancer goes on the MUSIC only right? ...

So my rack would go like this: (10 space top / 6 space rack)
Mixer on slanted top
Compressor
Enhancer
Power Conditioner
JVC Triple Tray

Power amp separate


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(see below) Loneman has it nailed.


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The Sonic Maximizer is not a crossover, it is a phase & amplitude aligner. BASICALLY, it takes the signal from your mixer & "realigns" the frequencies so they project better out of your speakers. For a better understanding on exactly what the Sonic Maximizer does http://www.bbesound.com/technologies/BBE%5FHDS/ You can use it on vocals only, music only or the entire mix. I use mine on the entire mix.

The Peavey Kosmos is nothing like the BBE as it is more of a sound spatializer. It "creates" low frequency sound by analizing the original signal & generates a low harmonic frequency 1 octave below the original. It also has a stereo imaging feature which can give the illusion of a bigger sound. This unit also has a built in subwoofer output so it DOES kind of work like a crossover in the respect you can send your sub amp it's own sub frequency.
A crossover takes one signal & divides it into separate frequency signals so that particular frequency can be amplified. Crossovers can come in different configuartions as 2 way - splitting high & low frequencies, 3 way, dividing high, mid & low frequencies, 4 way dividing high, high mid, low mid, low frequencies. [/url]

The dbx 266XL compressor is a nice entry level unit. It will sound better than the stuff under it's price while still not breaking your budget.

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When I was looking for the BBE 362, they told me it was did the same thing. So I got the peavey to match the rest of my gear.

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Would it add anything to my system sound to add the 362 while using the Kosmos. Do you think the 362 puts out a superior effect? I am happy with the sound of my Kosmos, but always looking to enhance. I do Know when I switch the Kosmos out of line it sounds nowhere as good as it does with it.


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You wouldn't add anything by running them together. They ultimately enhance the sound, but while one does it more naturally, they other generates signals that aren't really there. I prefer the BBE just because of it's simplicity: Lo Contour & Presence! If I had the gear that I really wanted, I wouldn't need either. But you definately wouldn't want to use them together, I don't see any added benefit.

BTW, I do have to amend my statement about the 362 being a crossover. I forgot that they made a 362SW model that did utilize a sub out. This may have been what you were looking at.

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