I think anybody mentioning someone else's name in a defammatory and inciteful way should be immediately barred, vanquished and deported--I've already requested to be barred from the forums.  Less ammunition given, the better.  It's a no win situation--one can't even be civil and try to add helpful opinions or suggestions as long as the person's name is attached to them.

The idea Nathan, would be to allow the removal of comments that are blatant attacks on the person's character, that may contain obscenities, things of that nature. It's not meant to promote the removal of legitimate song critique.  I think a vast majority of people could agree on the distinction.  I think some changes would be good to attempt.  I seriously doubt things would get worse then they are now.

I think anybody mentioning someone else's name in a defammatory and inciteful way should be immediately barred, vanquished and deported--I've already requested to be barred from the forums.  Less ammunition given, the better.  It's a no win situation--one can't even be civil and try to add helpful opinions or suggestions as long as the person's name is attached to them.  This applies to song submission intros, content of submissions, comments on submissions and comments made in forums.  We should be able to report any observations of this taking place to administration in due confidence.  In the situation of receiving harassing PMS, that should be reported as well, being sure to include material quotes so that adminstration is not bothered with fancied slights or misinterpretation as to what constitutes harrassment.

I couldn't agree more.

Same here.  That's a good point, Nathan.  Maybe we can ask people what they feel should be good ways to critique.  I vaguely remember Jazzy starting a thread once about the right/wrong ways to critique.  I don't remember if that's what lead to that option but you're right, there should be rules to follow.  BUT, that doesn't mean that the singer will like/accept what is told to them EVEN if they asked for it.  The wrong word is said, or the meaning not understood and the fire is lit.  And that is why this poll is being conducted, so that each person can make that PERSONAL choice of what to accept.

I also think that once you make your comment, it should not be alterable.  Not the person commenting and not your reply.   Period.

Same here.  That's a good point, Nathan.  Maybe we can ask people what they feel should be good ways to critique.  I vaguely remember Jazzy starting a thread once about the right/wrong ways to critique.  I don't remember if that's what lead to that option but you're right, there should be rules to follow.  BUT, that doesn't mean that the singer will like/accept what is told to them EVEN if they asked for it.  The wrong word is said, or the meaning not understood and the fire is lit.  And that is why this poll is being conducted, so that each person can make that PERSONAL choice of what to accept.

I also think that once you make your comment, it should not be alterable.  Not the person commenting and not your reply.   Period.

Ahhh Luly....  Ya know I love ya, but I must politely disagree......The fire will still be lit, just under different circumstances...and also, it will totally disable the 'C" feature to the point that it might as well not be there at all, just imagine an SS in which everyone can make there own perfect 10 "C" submission whenever they see fit, it would get ugly, and now that i'm thinking about it, probably worse than it is right now.....

Luly @ Wed Jan 17, 2007 1:30 pm]

Same here.  That's a good point, Nathan.  Maybe we can ask people what they feel should be good ways to critique.  I vaguely remember Jazzy starting a thread once about the right/wrong ways to critique.  I don't remember if that's what lead to that option but you're right, there should be rules to follow.  BUT, that doesn't mean that the singer will like/accept what is told to them EVEN if they asked for it.  The wrong word is said, or the meaning not understood and the fire is lit.  And that is why this poll is being conducted, so that each person can make that PERSONAL choice of what to accept.

I also think that once you make your comment, it should not be alterable.  Not the person commenting and not your reply.   Period.

Very good point Luly that is the one thing that disgusts me more than anything else. The ability of some to edit their vicious remarks constantly yet there is no redress for the replier. Take away the edit function all together

Nathan.  Are there no solutions to these problems we're talking about?  Is it just the 'law of the jungle' that will prevail?  LOL  What are your ideas for solving these problems?

Ahhh Luly....  Ya know I love ya, but I must politely disagree......The fire will still be lit, just under different circumstances...and also, it will totally disable the 'C" feature to the point that it might as well not be there at all, just imagine an SS in which everyone can make there own perfect 10 "C" submission whenever they see fit, it would get ugly, and now that i'm thinking about it, probably worse than it is right now...  

.....As I said before, maybe make the rules of the SS a little more apparent, explain in detail what each function of the SS is used for, and set people lose...There will always be arguments, but why replace one problem with another?  Perhaps all new members should receive an email explaining these things, or maybe put some type of disclaimer in the upload page.......

Hmmm!!!! The idea of not being able to edit an SS comment/reply would force people to think long and hard about the content before they submitted it.  Yet another good idea Luly!  :)

We're not so much concerned about the Rank as we are the slanderous content of the comment itself.  And we all know what those look like I think!  What if the Rank score could not be altered by the singer? Only the language.

Here's another idea...just throwing it out: No comments, just a selection of check boxes with the usual fluffy things on it (i.e., "Great job!", "Good job", "Enjoyed this", etc.).  The most appreciated comments are probably the ones you get sent personally to you to your PM box anyway.  

If anything, look at the rankings available in the critique checkbox: "Oh My God" and "Barely Listenable" are ALREADY there to set the tone for negativity.  Someone seeing those two descriptors (say a newcomer) gets the sense that if these rankings are allowed so is a scathing critique.

Let's do away with those two and the "Perfect" (there is no such thing) and grade it as following:  Poor, Fair, Good, Very Good, Excellent (or keep "Near Perfect" where it is, although that's a stretch).