While the rotation is up to the host Lonnie, still the proof is in the pudding. If patrons won't support the host's show because of how the rotation is handled, then eventually the customers decide who will play at different venues. Part of the reputation of the host and his show rests on how the matter of rotation is addressed. I don't know too many patrons who would wait if they were supposed to be up next, and then had to stand down, 45minutes or longer while a new group sings. This is after the start of the next round had begun.

I'm not talking about inserting his people and dove tailing into the existing rotation Paradigm, this is a block of 9 people shoved ahead of patrons that have been waiting , buying, and supporting the venue all night. I'm not the only one who has a problem with this method of handling a rotation. It is for this very reason that many patrons who have gone to his show say, that they will never go again.

And I full agree with that. If I saw I was up in three singers (say i'm first in rotation and 3 more at the end) & see a group of 5 walk in and get put up before the round ends making my wait go from 3 to 8, i'd leave as well. I like shows that do the insert method for new singers and have always ran my shows like that. I take periodic surveys every couple years and turns out the majority also prefer that method. If that ever changed, i'd reconsider a new method but so far it's never been an issue.
IMO i've never liked the put all new singers at the end - either as a singer nor as a kj.

...I put in a request well before the rotation ended. I expect to be called up to sing in the rotation that I put my request in period.

The key thing is that that is how I would react if there is some indication of the start of a new rotation. If there's no announcement or playing of DJ music between rotations, I would probably never know when the rotation started or ended.

My singers know exactly when I start and when I’ll end the rotation. It’s on two tv screens left & right. Five singers listed for all to see. Just keep scrolling ‘till the end of the list, then start again.

So if I came in and submitted my request to sing anywhere during the 2nd rotation, I would expect to see my name added just below Jerry's in the 2nd rotation or I would feel slighted and probably leave before I even got to sing.

So if I came in and submitted my request to sing anywhere during the 2nd rotation, I would expect to see my name added just below Jerry's in the 2nd rotation or I would feel slighted and probably leave before I even got to sing.

no right or wrong, just different.
if i saw you get put just below Jerry and i was Dallas (at the top of the rotation and at the top of 3rd rotation), i would leave. my spot was just taken by you and i was there earlier.

And then I would leave if I wasn't after Jerry in the rotation that I put my name and song in. Maybe I would leave if I come in and the third rotation hasn't started yet you have the start of the third rotation listed after Jerry and I know for certain that I put my name in before he sang without even singing my song and fail to let you know that I left so that you look like an assignment when you call me up and I don't show.

The way I look at it Dallas has already had a turn and if he is a regular Karaoke goer then he would know that there's a chance for the first rotation not to end because why should I see that you were the first singer in the rotation and I have to see you sing what I consider a second or third song before I get one in .